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rkeytect4
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Topic: Diaper supply shredded from 6-9 months-Please HelpPosted: 08 May 2012 at 1:37pm |
Here's the Scoop:I had all bumGenius diapers, (4) All-in-one Elementals, (1) Artist Series, a dozen or so Flip organic inserts, (6) Econobum inserts, and (6) Stay Dry inserts...most of these bought from the cottonbabies |
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littlehands
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 2:36pm |
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I would definitely figure out the source of the issue before restocking the stash and giving it another go. If you don't do that, you're likely to recreate the situation that was the cause and end up frustrated again.
I'm no laundry expert; it's been my diaper nemesis with previous kids. I do, however, know a lot about fabric and fiber and am learning a lot about diaper laundry in an effort to avoid past mistakes and issues. Start with the obvious- how's the laundry routine? Do you use anything potentially caustic or damaging like bleach? Regularly? Ocassionally? How is your rinse routine? Do you have city water that is highly treated/bleached? You also might want to look at your water content. I would imagine things like high iron could cause damage. Also, how does your machine treat other laundry? Do other items seem to wear faster than expected? Do you live in an area where it is very warm? Things like mold and other damaging stuff grows faster where there is high heat and moisture in the environment already. |
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ambrose
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 2:42pm |
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What kind of washing machine to you have? Mine destroys everything. But it sounds like this is just a diaper laundry problem -- not any issue with normal clothes?
Cloth-eez (that's green mountain, right?) is a good plan. If it is a mold issue you can add bleach w/out worry.
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mommyjessica
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 3:13pm |
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we have high iron/ hard well water and my diapers are only showing wear from actual wear and bleach use. and only the flats. well, thats mostly my stash, but a few other things are fine.
how hot is your water? whats the temp on the water heater? i wonder if that could be an issue? |
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rkeytect4
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 3:19pm |
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The washing machine is my nemesis... I have no clue what all the buttons mean or what goes on inside the machine when I turn it on. My only experience with them has been with the heavy duty front loaders. I'm not sure of the brand and model of ours so I'll look when I get home and post.
I live on Long Island, NY so this happened over the cool dry winter months...we have Suffolk County water...I'll have to look into the bleach/iron content. I store them in a dry bucket...I dump poop in the toilet beforehand. Grandma occasionally puts vaseline on him but I never use any type of rash cream as he's not had a rash. The only product I've washed my diapers with is the Nellie's detergent..so that's out When it comes to the routine I'm lost... bumGenius says to wash cold and then hot I believe but I've found this to be wayyy too time consuming and my diapers are always clean...stained but clean. So I found their system to be overkill - I wash them sometimes cold hot or warm...one cycle...sometimes a 2nd rinse...but like I said I don't knwo what I'm doing...I tried to sit down and read the manual once...lol but then something prob. came up with me DS. My sister has indian prefolds that lasted for my niece her whole time in diapers and are still good!! I asked her to show me what she does...she put the washer on a heavy duty cycle (which in my mind I'm like won't they rip to shreads) and used hot water...she says that's how she's always done it. so I tried it and it didn't rip them up anymore then they were oddly and they were cleaner... so I sort of feel like its not the washer but it might just be that the normal washer she uses is gentler... and using mine everyday is harsh... I'm not sure.. the other part is that I had a set of organic flip inserts that were perfect for the first 6 months and one started to rip and so I bought another 6...these second 6 were destroyed much quicker then the first set...which sort of makes me think something about the baby's output lol is to blame... it also could possibly be that i wasn't keeping up on the laundry as well once we started using sitters. I just wish there is an exact reason out there that someone knows... Yes only the diapers seem to get destroyed...and cloth-eez is by green mountain. Thanks guys!
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mommyjessica
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 3:34pm |
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i'm going to go out on a limb and say it could be the detergent. i say this because your clothes are fine. do you wash the clothing any different than diapers? also, how do you dry them? any different than clothes there?
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rkeytect4
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 3:54pm |
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I wash all our clothes in regular detergent...costco brand I think. I was going to was the baby clothes in Nellie's but it's so gentle it didn't seem to get the stains out... Interesting thought..
My sister uses ECOS the detergent from Whole Foods thats also good for diapers...I wonder if I should switch to that!
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ambrose
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 5:51pm |
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there is no one perfect detergent for everyone. Usually takes some experimentation to find what's the best fit for your situation. give something else a try. Personally, Country Save works OK for me.
and it sounds like overkill but sometimes diapers do need two cycles.
that's the big appeal of prefolds or flats -- vastly simplifies washing issue. If you like the BG line, flats n' Flips were my staple for awhile.
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 6:12pm |
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I have a HE front loader (fairly new) and I often use the heavy duty cycle esp. when diapers are really soiled/gross. I think that cycle just uses more water, more agitation, etc. I even do a pre-wash on that cycle sometimes.
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musicmama
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 6:20pm |
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I always do more than one cycle, too. Sometimes the output doesn't get rinsed out all the way. It may seem clean, but there's enough left over to eat away at the fiber.
Any chance they aren't completely dry? If CB mentioned mold, they think it means the bacteria, etc. is continuing to grow because the dipe stays just a bit damp. Cloth-eez stuff is very high quality. Since the PUL is separate from the absorbent fabric, things should rinse & dry better. |
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rustygriffen
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Posted: 08 May 2012 at 7:47pm |
Tracy, this made me think.... Are you using enough water with your diapers? They should be swimming in water. I always wash mine on the largest available setting. Not enough water makes the diapers rub together more. Another thing you could try besides a different detergent is test the acidity of your LOs urine with a PH test strip. If it's really acidic and the diapers are sitting for a couple of days I suppose it could start to break down fibers. But I don't think it's likely. I think your problem is probably Water - You can go online and search the water makeup for your county at the water departments website Bleach- A lot of bleaching and not enough Rinsing could damage fibers, especially over time Detergent- it could just be a bad mix for your water, or your not rinsing it well enough Wash cycle- You might not be using enough water for your diaps Rinse- Seriously, it sounds silly, but rinses are super important especially for people with "bad" water and diapers with lots of layers. You should never see bubbles in the rinse water, if so, rinse again. So basically I'm just echoing the sentiments of everyone else here. Did you say that you had some PFs that didn't get shredded? Machine-Unlikely since it's not affecting the rest of your clothes.
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rkeytect4
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 10:28am |
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Wow this forum is great! My washer is a “Kenmore Elite HE 3t Steam….Front-Loading
Washer” Here’s the water quality report http://www.scwa.com/assets/1/7/SCWA_AWQR_2.pdf
I am located in Distribution area 12… what level of Iron would be considered
high? Where do I get PH strips? CVS I suppose… Musicmama thanks for that comment! Come to think of it that
would make sense as to why the AIO bumGenius Elementals went first (if anyone
has used them you know that they take an extremely long time to dry) so that
would explain that I may not have dried them all the way.When Cottonbabies tol
me mold I was thinking they got moldy before washing not that they could get
moldy after washing from dampness! If I
put my Dryer on the hottest setting will that ruin the diapers? That has been
another worry of mine. Thanks Rustygriffin so for my washer or washers in general
to you think the cycle with the most water would be heavy duty? If so I’ll use
that from now on…I think that’s a 45 min. cycle… would you do two of those
first cold and second hot? On my Washer there is a cycle type and then options
Soil Level: Heavy, Water Temp:?, Spin
Speed:? Haha I have a lot of issues. After all that you would do a rinse?... If you guys could post your wash routine settings and times
that would help me so much! Yes there were one type of PFs (flat) that didn’t get
shredded through all of this and that is the Stay Dry insert…that is one of the
few inserts that I have that’s not organic…I’m not sure if that’s the reason
they held up better…I’m sure organic cotton is a more delicate material…? It
may also be that I didn’t use them as often. I’ve never put bleach or anything else on my diapers except
for a spoonful of Nellie’s per load. Thanks so much everybody! I think I’m coming to the conclusion
that they weren’t getting washed well enough or dried well enough! I am leaning
towards buying some cloth-eez… I’m no longer fond of cottonbabies after dealing
with their customer servie altho my favorite cover will remain flip and
econobum (and thirsties but they are not cottonbabies.) |
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 10:31am |
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You can never ever go wrong with GMD/Cloth-eez flats and prefolds. And, they have some of the very best customer service out there.
I would post my wash routine for you, but I have a top-loader so it wouldn't do much good. Sorry you lost your stash so soon :( That's why I stick to cotton diapers with covers. |
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rkeytect4
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 10:48am |
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Thanks! I know it stink but I won't let it happen again! I will never buy another AIO they take forever to dry.. All around I prefer an insert and cover it's easier and there is less to wash less to dry and easy to just rinse the cover.
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 11:02am |
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I have a top loader also, but, I can tell you what I do.
I have hard water and it is difficult to get ANYTHING clean. Cold cycle with thirsties per wash (I've been out so using bleach- I'm HARD on my diapers) if I use bleach, I use detergent along with it. I have a bunch of different types so use whatever I feel like "trying". It is always a work in progress for me. After the cold cycle, I do a hot without adding detergent. After those two washes, I do the sniff test. If it smells like detergent or not clean, I start over. I could solve all my problems by using only flats but I like a few other things as well. I wash covers with clothes. I dry dipes on any cycle and they have always been fine. It's better to dry them in gentle and let them finish by air drying. Sometimes it is hard to tell when they are really dry. Good luck. It can be frustrating to say the least. |
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 11:05am |
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Oh my. I should not try to do this from my phone!
If I use thirsties pre wash (not per wash..) I use it in the cold cycle. Then I use super wash in the hot cycle. I'm just out right now ;) |
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rkeytect4
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 11:08am |
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haha got it! Thanks you're awesome!
I wish you mommies lived by me so we could have a playgroup! lol we already have a bunch of things in common!
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 12:38pm |
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Good luck with your wash routine!! It can be so frustrating. I use Nellies with my dipes too (Flips with organic cotton inserts, BG 4.0's, PF's, covers and Kushies) and have hard water. We are not having any issues so far, but we do use Rockin' Green mostly.
I hope you can figure it out! It sounds like you got a lot of great advice :) |
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Posted: 09 May 2012 at 1:06pm |
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Well, I read your water report and it was totally middle of the road normal. You don't have hard water, or high iron, and it doesn't even look like the levels of chlorine are that high.
I have a top loader so my wash routine probably won't be that helpful to you. There are some mommas on here that have perfected the FL wash routine so maybe they will chime in. If it were me, I'd get some GMD PFs and Flats, change your detergent, and then always use the cycle that has the most water (and don't wash a TON of diaps at once) and rinse rinse rinse until you don't see any bubbles (for me on my TL that means hot/cold wash followed by another hot/cold wash). Then I would make sure your diapers are getting fully dry, which you won't have to worry about with PFs and flats.
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Posted: 12 May 2012 at 10:32pm |
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I use a top loader now, but we used to have a front loader. Then I did a (short) rinse cycle at the beginning. It was about 20 mins. Then a heavy hot wash with detergent adding the extra rinse (option on my machine). This cycle is about 55 mins. Then another warm rinse cycle to make sure all the bubbbles were gone. |
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Posted: 12 May 2012 at 10:53pm |
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Thx! since i started the cold rinse and then heavy duty hot wash my diapers (stay-dry, all that's left) have been so clean and white... i dry on heavy duty as well, high heat. otherwise they don't get fully dry. so hopefully i don't have to change my detergent because i have 5 gallon bucket of it! lol bulk buy.... I've read every review on the internet about it and it seams harmless. otherwise ill use it for our clothes n switch to eos like my sister....
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Posted: 13 May 2012 at 12:32am |
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I have a front loader.
My wash routine: Add a wet towel (or two) to the drum of machine (this tricks the machine into adding more water) Cold wash on delicate cycle - no soap (delicate cycle uses the more water than the rinse cycles) hot/heavy wash, detergent, with "extra soil" button pushed (the end of this cycle uses an additional cold rinse) |
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